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#46March 8th, 2011 · 10:23 AM
371 threads / 187 songs
3,384 posts
United Kingdom
re: Why that?
TritonKeyboarder wrote…
I don't understand this discussion and (sorry) I did not read the entire thread. Denis is doing a great work and has shown big efforts in this project. Thank you Denis so far. Until today I didn't sign the agreement but that's not the problem of Bandamp. I simply forgot to do that. It's still a fantastic idea to promote a Bandamp album. But all of us can't expect to become rich one day by publishing this album. And if someone really is interested in my track and pays for that, so why not. Do I need THIS money what is nice to have? Maybe I would spend for some prizes to win in the battles (if they would work properly one day). Bandamp is a non-commercial site! We all are amateurs and home recorders except a handful of members who have the ability to do more with their musical skills.
For me it's a matter of community, of family, of social cohesion. This gets lost in my eyes.
Anyway....
...sad to read all the feelings and opinions coming up between the words written above. Again I do not understand this discussion.

Should I still sign in to the project????????

@Denis: gigging is a good prompt! Why not come together and start gigging?

My questions are:
Do we need an official committee to steer Bandamp's intents? Not everything can be done or is decidable via Internet. On the other hand we leave it as it is and the community goes it's way and act as nothing has ever happened.

Battlecat is not happy with the agreement, I've sent him a pm today with some information that may help the situation.
We all need to be happy with the agreement, It's difficult to please everyone.
It may be an idea if you communicate with battlecat and hopefully come to some compromise.

My question is who is the boss of bandAMP, it is my understanding that mudd passed the site onto it's members. If Mudd is still the Boss, then we should perhaps put the matter to him. If we the members are in control, then we need an official committee as you suggested, it could be You, Battlecat and kings??

Cheers
Denis
#47March 8th, 2011 · 01:20 PM
340 threads / 59 songs
4,344 posts
United Kingdom
re: re: Why that?
ULI wrote…
TritonKeyboarder wrote…
For me it's a matter of community, of family, of social cohesion. This gets lost in my eyes.
Anyway....
...sad to read all the feelings and opinions coming up between the words written above. Again I do not understand this discussion.

Should I still sign in to the project????????
Exactly THAT´S it . Because of this (for me ) strange discussion.
When this project was started I was relatively "fresh" on this forum and I felt honered to be elected into the project . Thought it would become a thing of idealism , fun , friendship ( if possible via net) and the enthusiasm to be part of a common spirit .                     Now I know : blueeyed
As everywhere in life it is difficult to reduce sth. to a common denominator.

That´s my point now . this common spirit is lost now in my personal sence .
I´d like to hear a clear word if there´s any intention of everybody to continue or carrying to its grave ??
U . L . I .

Dont worry about bandAmp.....if anything, things like this make us stronger .... see how it goes, Denis makes a thread telling us he wants to make a Vol II, through his efforts and a few suggestions he gets a line up, again through his efforts he gets reactions from the artists in the line up, and then it goes pear shaped !
The usuals will spend a little more time trying to find a solution and a few less usuals may pop in to have their say and we'll eventually come to a conclusion and maybe even a product .... we did for Vol I !
It seems to be the way of the net and trying to organize things through forums .... lots of people and time to consider.
#48March 8th, 2011 · 01:22 PM
92 threads / 12 songs
893 posts
United States of America
Sorry Denis, but you're still missing the point. I made a simple request, which is being ignored. You didn't consult me or anyone that I know of before you altered the agreement, and now you're upset because I ask you to modify the agreement. I didn't ask you to abort the project, that was your response and only you can take responsibility for that. Stirring up the community and attempting to gang them up against me is not going to help matters. I am not alone in my concerns, but I don't see any evidence that you are considering that. My request still stands. You could end all this if you would simply accomodate my request. Very simple...no need for drama. It is true that you have done a magnificent job of organizing this very large effort to date, and I want to be very clear that I think this is a very good thing - I would be happy with the alteration of the agreement as I stated earlier. Then let the project move on.
#49March 8th, 2011 · 01:43 PM
340 threads / 59 songs
4,344 posts
United Kingdom
So Denis, and anyone else, if an album is compiled and uploaded as one whole onto rutenote or any other album selling site it has to be sold ? We cant just give it away ? lol

We can give it away from bandAmp as has been suggested .... but then we'd come to the conclusion that we need an account because we can sell it.

So maybe we should be discussing the
      possibilities / uses / usefulness / administration / responsibility
of a single bandAmp account ?

Mud would be the most obvious person to set it up and couple it with the site ...... such an account would eventually pay for the server if set up right, meaning that Mud could then truly 'give it to the members', letting it run it's self .... seems simple to me !   

An open forum is maybe not the place to have this discussion but it's got to start somewhere and needs to include the few main core of this wonderful little restaurant at the end of the universe !
#50March 8th, 2011 · 02:10 PM
117 threads / 27 songs
1,057 posts
Germany
Aren´t we all protected by our own "bandamp"-licence ? We all agreed by signing up .
With this licence we should be able to distribute everywhere we want . Or not ?

http://about.bandamp.com/license.html
#51March 8th, 2011 · 03:39 PM
371 threads / 187 songs
3,384 posts
United Kingdom
BC I'm not upset...lol
Prepare an agreement that you think is suitable and put it to the members if they are all happy with it, inc me then let's do it. you say it's simple, but I'm hopeless at administration, it took me three months just to come up with a basic agreement...lol
I applogise for not asking you about the amendments, but I assure you it was innocence on my part, I assumed that you would not have a problem with this, it was only done in the best interests of keeping the album going for ever, I hope you understand that.
I'm certainly not ganging up on you, as I said to everyone I HATE POLITICS AND ADMINISTRATION
That's why I pulled out immediately, I don't want to cause any problems for nobody.
I've also said that I have no hard feelings with you or anyone for that matter, you have a right to your opions as much as anyone else.
If I'm stirring up the community, then I'll resign from bandAMP. I love bandAMP, If ever the members thought I am doing any wrong please speak now or forever hold your peace, That's the last thing I'd ever want, was to create any bad feelings, I'm a very genuine loving, giving person and very proude of it.

kings

I've already pm'd Mudd just to see what he thinks, at the end of the day if he is still the boss he needs to be consulted. I would be happy to put all profits back into bandAMP, it's a good idea, money for prizes, if we could only get the battle going again eh, that would be awsome.

U.L.I.

Re: http://about.bandamp.com/license.html

Yes I noticed this today, I'm no expert, but I think this protects bandAMP, I've put it to BC and asked him what his thoughts are on the matter.


~ PEACE~
#52March 8th, 2011 · 05:36 PM
118 threads / 55 songs
3,086 posts
Netherlands
Looks like this thing is gonna fly after all!

So basically the point was that BandAMP and it's moderators can and will not take any responsibility regarding the administration of the album - BandAMP as an entity simply can't, and the moderators won't, and the community as is would be legally inviable to be held accountable in any way, would problems arise. But innocence on Denis' part, in willingness to guarantee continuation of the album's existence into eternity, simply attempted to construct a failsafe device within the community via that disclaimer, also showing himself trustworthy aswell as trusting that we could all stand up for eachother incase of unforeseen troubles. Yet the truly unforeseen breached the pillars under the failsafe construction before it could stand firm, and the whole deal came tumbling down

Anyway, I hope things are settling now, and renewed plans come together soon. I'll wait and see, and no, I'm not in it for the money ofcourse, I'm in it for the spirit of things. Cheers
#53March 8th, 2011 · 09:36 PM
92 threads / 12 songs
893 posts
United States of America
Denis wrote…
BC I'm not upset...lol
Prepare an agreement that you think is suitable and put it to the members if they are all happy with it, inc me then let's do it. you say it's simple, but I'm hopeless at administration, it took me three months just to come up with a basic agreement...lol
I applogise for not asking you about the amendments, but I assure you it was innocence on my part, I assumed that you would not have a problem with this, it was only done in the best interests of keeping the album going for ever, I hope you understand that.
I'm certainly not ganging up on you, as I said to everyone I HATE POLITICS AND ADMINISTRATION
That's why I pulled out immediately, I don't want to cause any problems for nobody.
I've also said that I have no hard feelings with you or anyone for that matter, you have a right to your opions as much as anyone else.
If I'm stirring up the community, then I'll resign from bandAMP. I love bandAMP, If ever the members thought I am doing any wrong please speak now or forever hold your peace, That's the last thing I'd ever want, was to create any bad feelings, I'm a very genuine loving, giving person and very proude of it.

kings

I've already pm'd Mudd just to see what he thinks, at the end of the day if he is still the boss he needs to be consulted. I would be happy to put all profits back into bandAMP, it's a good idea, money for prizes, if we could only get the battle going again eh, that would be awsome.

U.L.I.

Re: http://about.bandamp.com/license.html

Yes I noticed this today, I'm no expert, but I think this protects bandAMP, I've put it to BC and asked him what his thoughts are on the matter.


~ PEACE~
You coulda fooled me that you weren't upset, but that's okay. I hear you and believe you meant no harm. Now let's see what we can do to keep this project online. I do think it would be a good idea to time-limit how long you're going to be responsible for administration of the album, because I feel it is an unrealistic burden to put on you to serve as administrator for this project for longer than that. Several participants who have responded to this thread have indicated they're not particularly interested in profits, anyway. Therefore, I added a line limiting your responsibility to three years (I will remove it if you disagree). Then, I made a couple other changes that I feel will afford better protection for the site. Hopefully we can get this thing back online.

.........................................................................................................................................................................................................

BandAMP Productions members agreement for songs published on routenote.com
Album "The AMP vol II"
Distributor “routenote.com"
Administrator “Denis Ahmet"

Songs to be included:

BandAMP Member    Song title                bandamp.com link

MountStRobbie            New MSR                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3938.html
PuppetXeno            Wallcrack                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8167.html
Kings                        Folk-Freely                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/4943.html
Marino                Siluetas                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8182.html
Chill                  She Will Never Get Away           http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8192.html
Thebigguyconner              The Man (Final)                          http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6971.html
Denis                Conquest                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/5700.html
AustinChicken            More Fresh Coffee                 http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6151.html
BasketCase            Old Man(ftPuppetXeno)                http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3150.html
Blakhatz            We're not Alone                           http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6427.html
Theotherguy89        Future In Robots                    http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6621.html
Takaminerbb13            Burn                                     http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3291.html
SkunkApe                 Home Again                         http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8210.html
ULI                      Power of mentality                       http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8196.html
baverbach              Bayou Ladies                              http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/7891.html
FreakCrazy            I Wanna Funk You                      http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/7916.html
TritonKeyboarder        Stump It                                    http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/903.html
FLYER7747      My Last Night At McMahon's_V2         http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6836.html

Terms and Conditions

Members agree to the publishing of their song that is included in the above song list on routenote.com and confirm that they have read and accepted routenote.com's terms and conditions. http://routenote.com/termsandconditions

All members confirm they own the copyright to their songs, and or, they have received written permission from a joint copyright holder/s.  Copyrights to all songs will remain the property of the copyright holder/s, all rights reserved by the copyright holder/s.

All profits from the album will be divided equally and paid to each members PayPal account (preferred method) or Members bank account (members to pay any Bank transfer fees if applicable) every six months, for a maximum of three years from the official launch date, administered by Denis Ahmet (Denis) from routenote.com.  Once the album goes live any member's song will be on the album for life. As indicated by signature (below) the signer is indicating full acceptance of responsibility for the outcome of his/her participation in the album project entitled "The AMP Volume Two" and thereby frees Bandamp.com, it's membership, administration, agents, ownership, volunteers including Denis Ahmet of any liability for damages that might occur as a result of the signer's participation in the album project entitled "The Amp Volume Two". Furthermore, as indicated by signature below, the signer releases BandAmp.com , it's membership, agents, volunteers, administration and ownership of any responsibility in administration of the project or the album entitled "The Amp Volume Two".

Members birth name:.........................................................bandAMP Name.................................................................

Members PayPal Account/Bank Details (optional):.......................................................................................................

.......................................................................................................................................................................................

Members Home Address:  .......................................................................................................................................................................................

..................................................................................................................................Post/Zip Code:............................

Member Email address:.................................................................................


Signed sealed &
Delivered (Member).............................................(print)...................................................Date:...................................

 In the presence
of Witness (signed)...............................................(print)...................................................Date:....................................
#54March 8th, 2011 · 11:46 PM
371 threads / 187 songs
3,384 posts
United Kingdom
battlecat wrote…
Denis wrote…
BC I'm not upset...lol
Prepare an agreement that you think is suitable and put it to the members if they are all happy with it, inc me then let's do it. you say it's simple, but I'm hopeless at administration, it took me three months just to come up with a basic agreement...lol
I applogise for not asking you about the amendments, but I assure you it was innocence on my part, I assumed that you would not have a problem with this, it was only done in the best interests of keeping the album going for ever, I hope you understand that.
I'm certainly not ganging up on you, as I said to everyone I HATE POLITICS AND ADMINISTRATION
That's why I pulled out immediately, I don't want to cause any problems for nobody.
I've also said that I have no hard feelings with you or anyone for that matter, you have a right to your opinions as much as anyone else.
If I'm stirring up the community, then I'll resign from bandAMP. I love bandAMP, If ever the members thought I am doing any wrong please speak now or forever hold your peace, That's the last thing I'd ever want, was to create any bad feelings, I'm a very genuine loving, giving person and very proud of it.

kings

I've already pm'd Mudd just to see what he thinks, at the end of the day if he is still the boss he needs to be consulted. I would be happy to put all profits back into bandAMP, it's a good idea, money for prizes, if we could only get the battle going again eh, that would be awesome.

U.L.I.

Re: http://about.bandamp.com/license.html

Yes I noticed this today, I'm no expert, but I think this protects bandAMP, I've put it to BC and asked him what his thoughts are on the matter.


~ PEACE~
You coulda fooled me that you weren't upset, but that's okay. I hear you and believe you meant no harm. Now let's see what we can do to keep this project online. I do think it would be a good idea to time-limit how long you're going to be responsible for administration of the album, because I feel it is an unrealistic burden to put on you to serve as administrator for this project for longer than that. Several participants who have responded to this thread have indicated they're not particularly interested in profits, anyway. Therefore, I added a line limiting your responsibility to three years (I will remove it if you disagree). Then, I made a couple other changes that I feel will afford better protection for the site. Hopefully we can get this thing back online.

.........................................................................................................................................................................................................

BandAMP Productions members agreement for songs published on routenote.com
Album "The AMP vol II"
Distributor “routenote.com"
Administrator “Denis Ahmet"

Songs to be included:

BandAMP Member    Song title                bandamp.com link

MountStRobbie            New MSR                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3938.html
PuppetXeno            Wallcrack                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8167.html
Kings                        Folk-Freely                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/4943.html
Marino                Siluetas                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8182.html
Chill                  She Will Never Get Away           http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8192.html
Thebigguyconner              The Man (Final)                          http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6971.html
Denis                Conquest                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/5700.html
AustinChicken            More Fresh Coffee                 http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6151.html
BasketCase            Old Man(ftPuppetXeno)                http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3150.html
Blakhatz            We're not Alone                           http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6427.html
Theotherguy89        Future In Robots                    http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6621.html
Takaminerbb13            Burn                                     http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3291.html
SkunkApe                 Home Again                         http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8210.html
ULI                      Power of mentality                       http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8196.html
baverbach              Bayou Ladies                              http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/7891.html
FreakCrazy            I Wanna Funk You                      http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/7916.html
TritonKeyboarder        Stump It                                    http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/903.html
FLYER7747      My Last Night At McMahon's_V2         http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6836.html

Terms and Conditions

Members agree to the publishing of their song that is included in the above song list on routenote.com and confirm that they have read and accepted routenote.com's terms and conditions. http://routenote.com/termsandconditions

All members confirm they own the copyright to their songs, and or, they have received written permission from a joint copyright holder/s.  Copyrights to all songs will remain the property of the copyright holder/s, all rights reserved by the copyright holder/s.

All profits from the album will be divided equally and paid to each members PayPal account (preferred method) or Members bank account (members to pay any Bank transfer fees if applicable) every six months, for a maximum of three years from the official launch date, administered by Denis Ahmet (Denis) from routenote.com.  Once the album goes live any member's song will be on the album for life. As indicated by signature (below) the signer is indicating full acceptance of responsibility for the outcome of his/her participation in the album project entitled "The AMP Volume Two" and thereby frees Bandamp.com and Denis Ahmet of any liability for damages that might occur as a result of the signer's participation in the album project entitled "The Amp Volume Two". Furthermore, as indicated by signature below, the signer releases BandAmp.com of any responsibility in administration of the project or the album entitled "The Amp Volume Two".

Members birth name:.........................................................bandAMP Name.................................................................

Members PayPal Account/Bank Details (optional):.......................................................................................................

.......................................................................................................................................................................................

Members Home Address:  .......................................................................................................................................................................................

..................................................................................................................................Post/Zip Code:............................

Member Email address:.................................................................................


Signed sealed &
Delivered (Member).............................................(print)...................................................Date:...................................

 In the presence
of Witness (signed)...............................................(print)...................................................Date:....................................

It reads in one section it is for three years, then for life in another, are you saying that my commitment is for three years, but the songs are for life.
I think that needs to be clearly defined. The way it sounds to me is that members will only get paid for three years, what happens after that?

Edit* Can you create a document that would allow members to choose another administrator at any time, also it would be a good idea for me to have the option to withdraw my administration duties at any time, for what ever reason, in doing so another administrator would be chosen by the members of bandAMP.
Also just in case I become ill or similar and not be able to physically or mentally carry out my duties, for someone to have access to the routenote.com
#55March 9th, 2011 · 07:05 AM
92 threads / 12 songs
893 posts
United States of America
battlecat wrote…

It reads in one section it is for three years, then for life in another, are you saying that my commitment is for three years, but the songs are for life.
I think that needs to be clearly defined. The way it sounds to me is that members will only get paid for three years, what happens after that?

Edit* Can you create a document that would allow members to choose another administrator at any time, also it would be a good idea for me to have the option to withdraw my administration duties at any time, for what ever reason, in doing so another administrator would be chosen by the members of bandAMP.
Also just in case I become ill or similar and not be able to physically or mentally carry out my duties, for someone to have access to the routenote.com

Well, that's exactly the point. Several members have indicated they are only interested in having the experience of participation in the project, (not the profits) and having the album available for the sake of posterity. This project can become a nightmare to take on as a lifelong project and Bandamp should not be implicated in any way. This way, the members can enter into the agreement with full knowledge that they cannot expect lifelong administration (again, select members have so far indicated they don't expect profit). The agreement indicates that they are allowing their work to appear on the album without the option of demanding their removal at any point (hence "on the album for life") which would be impractical, while at the same time indicating they understand they cannot expect you or anyone else to have ongoing responsibility to ensure dispersal of payments beyond three years (if indeed you are willing to commit to that).  Dennis I think you need to understand this project has the potential to create management nightmares in the long run, because of the somewhat unrealistic notion that this will be a profit-generating project for a lifetime. Understandably you are concerned about the implications of your responsibility without limit, but this is the situation you created when you devised a project that is supposed to generate profits for 18 people, all contributing potentially valuable properties. Naturally, the potential for complication is present and you, nor any of the participants can reasonably expect that somebody is going to be there to administer the album for perpetuity.
#56March 9th, 2011 · 08:53 AM
117 threads / 27 songs
1,057 posts
Germany
dispersal of payments beyond three years
I like the idea to release Vol .2 temporary limited for two reasons .
1 .  For the reasons Cat mentioned above
2 .  This way every member is enabled to do whatever he wants to do with his album track after this common bandamp project.

I´d like even to suggest to release every project (thisone and any in future ) just for 1 or 2 years . So we can
initiate & release new compilations every year .   Perhaps every time under a new motto ?

I think in any case a "time limit" might be a good solution . So we´ll gonna stay indipendent.
The artists , the administrator (denis) , bandamp & the mods  AND : the projects.
#57March 9th, 2011 · 09:00 AM
371 threads / 187 songs
3,384 posts
United Kingdom
battlecat wrote…
battlecat wrote…

It reads in one section it is for three years, then for life in another, are you saying that my commitment is for three years, but the songs are for life.
I think that needs to be clearly defined. The way it sounds to me is that members will only get paid for three years, what happens after that?

Edit* Can you create a document that would allow members to choose another administrator at any time, also it would be a good idea for me to have the option to withdraw my administration duties at any time, for what ever reason, in doing so another administrator would be chosen by the members of bandAMP.
Also just in case I become ill or similar and not be able to physically or mentally carry out my duties, for someone to have access to the routenote.com

Well, that's exactly the point. Several members have indicated they are only interested in having the experience of participation in the project, (not the profits) and having the album available for the sake of posterity. This project can become a nightmare to take on as a lifelong project and Bandamp should not be implicated in any way. This way, the members can enter into the agreement with full knowledge that they cannot expect lifelong administration (again, select members have so far indicated they don't expect profit). The agreement indicates that they are allowing their work to appear on the album without the option of demanding their removal at any point (hence "on the album for life") which would be impractical, while at the same time indicating they understand they cannot expect you or anyone else to have ongoing responsibility to ensure dispersal of payments beyond three years (if indeed you are willing to commit to that).  Dennis I think you need to understand this project has the potential to create management nightmares in the long run, because of the somewhat unrealistic notion that this will be a profit-generating project for a lifetime. Understandably you are concerned about the implications of your responsibility without limit, but this is the situation you created when you devised a project that is supposed to generate profits for 18 people, all contributing potentially valuable properties. Naturally, the potential for complication is present and you, nor any of the participants can reasonably expect that somebody is going to be there to administer the album for perpetuity.

Thanks for the in depth explanation - it all makes sence
Thank you
#58March 9th, 2011 · 09:45 AM
92 threads / 12 songs
893 posts
United States of America
You're welcome - however, I have thought about your concern and it does make sense that you should have the option to back out, or (on the unlikely possibility) the participants don't like your administration of the project, they should have the opportunity to elect a new administrator - but I think that should be selected from the participants themselves. I think it would be a good thing if you agree to assist with the transition of adminitrative role to a new administrator if that becomes necessary, (and if you're able) But I won't include that in the agreement. I will add another modification for the approval of the participants....(as soon as I get time...I'm at work and pretty busy...)
#59March 9th, 2011 · 09:57 AM
92 threads / 12 songs
893 posts
United States of America
Okay, here's an edit......see what you think

BandAMP Productions members agreement for songs published on routenote.com
Album "The AMP vol II"
Distributor “routenote.com"
Administrator “Denis Ahmet"

Songs to be included:

BandAMP Member    Song title                bandamp.com link

MountStRobbie            New MSR                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3938.html
PuppetXeno            Wallcrack                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8167.html
Kings                        Folk-Freely                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/4943.html
Marino                Siluetas                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8182.html
Chill                  She Will Never Get Away           http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8192.html
Thebigguyconner              The Man (Final)                          http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6971.html
Denis                Conquest                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/5700.html
AustinChicken            More Fresh Coffee                 http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6151.html
BasketCase            Old Man(ftPuppetXeno)                http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3150.html
Blakhatz            We're not Alone                           http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6427.html
Theotherguy89        Future In Robots                    http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6621.html
Takaminerbb13            Burn                                     http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3291.html
SkunkApe                 Home Again                         http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8210.html
ULI                      Power of mentality                       http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8196.html
baverbach              Bayou Ladies                              http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/7891.html
FreakCrazy            I Wanna Funk You                      http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/7916.html
TritonKeyboarder        Stump It                                    http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/903.html
FLYER7747      My Last Night At McMahon's_V2         http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6836.html

Terms and Conditions

Members agree to the publishing of their song that is included in the above song list on routenote.com and confirm that they have read and accepted routenote.com's terms and conditions. http://routenote.com/termsandconditions

All members confirm they own the copyright to their songs, and or, they have received written permission from a joint copyright holder/s.  Copyrights to all songs will remain the property of the copyright holder/s, all rights reserved by the copyright holder/s.

All profits from the album will be divided equally and paid to each members PayPal account (preferred method) or Members bank account (members to pay any Bank transfer fees if applicable) every six months, for a maximum of three years from the official launch date, administered by Denis Ahmet (Denis) from routenote.com.  Once the album goes live any member's song will be on the album for life. As indicated by signature (below) the signer:
1.    Is indicating full acceptance of responsibility for the outcome of his/her participation in the album project entitled "The AMP Volume Two" and thereby frees Bandamp.com, it's membership, administration, agents, ownership, volunteers including Denis Ahmet of any liability for damages that might occur as a result of the signer's participation in the album project entitled "The Amp Volume Two".
2.     Releases BandAmp.com, its membership, agents, volunteers, administration and ownership of any responsibility in administration of the project or the album entitled "The Amp Volume Two".
3.    Indicates understanding and agreement that, if at any time, Denis Ahmet is unable or unwilling to continue the role of administrator for this project, he reserves the right to resign that role, whereby the participants in this project, (the 18 individuals who contribute songs to the album entitled "The AMP Volume Two"), may elect among themselves a new administrator.
4.    Indicates understanding and agreement that, if the Participants in the Album project entitled "The AMP Volume Two" wish to remove Dennis Ahmet from the role of administrator of the project or album, they may reserve the right to do so, based on a majority vote, whereby they will elect a new administrator (also by majority vote) among themselves (the 18 individuals who contribute songs to the album entitled "The AMP Volume Two"), to continue administration of the project and the album.

Members birth name:.........................................................bandAMP Name.................................................................

Members PayPal Account/Bank Details (optional):.......................................................................................................

.......................................................................................................................................................................................

Members Home Address:  .......................................................................................................................................................................................

..................................................................................................................................Post/Zip Code:............................

Member Email address:.................................................................................


Signed sealed &
Delivered (Member).............................................(print)...................................................Date:...................................

 In the presence
of Witness (signed)...............................................(print)...................................................Date:....................................
#60March 9th, 2011 · 11:31 AM
371 threads / 187 songs
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battlecat wrote…
Okay, here's an edit......see what you think

BandAMP Productions members agreement for songs published on routenote.com
Album "The AMP vol II"
Distributor �routenote.com"
Administrator �Denis Ahmet"

Songs to be included:

BandAMP Member    Song title                bandamp.com link

MountStRobbie            New MSR                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3938.html
PuppetXeno            Wallcrack                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8167.html
Kings                        Folk-Freely                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/4943.html
Marino                Siluetas                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8182.html
Chill                  She Will Never Get Away           http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8192.html
Thebigguyconner              The Man (Final)                          http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6971.html
Denis                Conquest                             http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/5700.html
AustinChicken            More Fresh Coffee                 http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6151.html
BasketCase            Old Man(ftPuppetXeno)                http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3150.html
Blakhatz            We're not Alone                           http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6427.html
Theotherguy89        Future In Robots                    http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6621.html
Takaminerbb13            Burn                                     http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/3291.html
SkunkApe                 Home Again                         http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8210.html
ULI                      Power of mentality                       http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/8196.html
baverbach              Bayou Ladies                              http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/7891.html
FreakCrazy            I Wanna Funk You                      http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/7916.html
TritonKeyboarder        Stump It                                    http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/903.html
FLYER7747      My Last Night At McMahon's_V2         http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/6836.html

Terms and Conditions

Members agree to the publishing of their song that is included in the above song list on routenote.com and confirm that they have read and accepted routenote.com's terms and conditions. http://routenote.com/termsandconditions

All members confirm they own the copyright to their songs, and or, they have received written permission from a joint copyright holder/s.  Copyrights to all songs will remain the property of the copyright holder/s, all rights reserved by the copyright holder/s.

All profits from the album will be divided equally and paid to each members PayPal account (preferred method) or Members bank account (members to pay any Bank transfer fees if applicable) every six months, for a maximum of three years from the official launch date, administered by Denis Ahmet (Denis) from routenote.com.  Once the album goes live any member's song will be on the album for life. As indicated by signature (below) the signer:
1.    Is indicating full acceptance of responsibility for the outcome of his/her participation in the album project entitled "The AMP Volume Two" and thereby frees Bandamp.com, it's membership, administration, agents, ownership, volunteers including Denis Ahmet of any liability for damages that might occur as a result of the signer's participation in the album project entitled "The Amp Volume Two".
2.     Releases BandAmp.com, its membership, agents, volunteers, administration and ownership of any responsibility in administration of the project or the album entitled "The Amp Volume Two".
3.    Indicates understanding and agreement that, if at any time, Denis Ahmet is unable or unwilling to continue the role of administrator for this project, he reserves the right to resign that role, whereby the participants in this project, (the 18 individuals who contribute songs to the album entitled "The AMP Volume Two"), may elect among themselves a new administrator.
4.    Indicates understanding and agreement that, if the Participants in the Album project entitled "The AMP Volume Two" wish to remove Dennis Ahmet from the role of administrator of the project or album, they may reserve the right to do so, based on a majority vote, whereby they will elect a new administrator (also by majority vote) among themselves (the 18 individuals who contribute songs to the album entitled "The AMP Volume Two"), to continue administration of the project and the album.

Members birth name:.........................................................bandAMP Name.................................................................

Members PayPal Account/Bank Details (optional):.......................................................................................................

.......................................................................................................................................................................................

Members Home Address:  .......................................................................................................................................................................................

..................................................................................................................................Post/Zip Code:............................

Member Email address:.................................................................................


Signed sealed &
Delivered (Member).............................................(print)...................................................Date:...................................

 In the presence
of Witness (signed)...............................................(print)...................................................Date:....................................

Getting better all the time...

We may have to change it a little, in that MountStRobbie does not want the particular nominated song  on the album, I only found out a few days ago, but having said that we can replace the song, as indeed if any other members decide to opt out, there will be room for more songs, so long as it fits on a CD. You could just change the agreement to say something like 'all partisipants' or' all members/artists', that way we can genrealise the contract for future use. Or just leave it. 

Once we are happy with the agreement I'll PM it to all partispating members on the album for the final OK

I've a feeling we may not be able to get hold of some of the members on the album. There are some songs that were nominated and I believe the members are not even aware that their song has been nominated. I'll worry about that when it comes to it, it's not a problem we have thousands of songs and I'm sure many who would want to partisipate.
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