| Which Piano? |
I'm starting to make plans for my small studio (about 5 x 3 meters). I want to get an Electric Piano and would like to hear some feedback from all you dedicated Piano Players. Bear in mind I'm not a pro Piano player, but for those of you who know me, I'm a multi-instrumentalist and with time I can play to a reasonable standard. I think I've got a good touch, so I've been told, but only know a couple of songs on the Piano, hence I'm always creating songs rather than doing covers.
It's going to remain static in the studio, so one with a wooden frame is fine, but I'd still consider a portable.
The most important two things are the sound and feel of the keys, plus as compact as possible.
So far based on my research Yamaha and Roland seem to be the kings of keys, but I'm open for suggestions.
The Roland F120 looks like a good bet to me. http://www.roland.co.uk/products/productdetails.aspx?p=1185
I'm lucky in that there is a Piano Shop only about 5 miles from my home. Here is a link to there website
http://www.ukpianos.co.uk/
I've set a budget for about £1000.00 - I don't mind if it's a good second-hand one, if I can get something good for less, all the better.
I'd be interested to know of your experiences and your thoughts on what grade and quality of Piano I should buy. Essentially I'll be playing, creating and recording.
It's going to remain static in the studio, so one with a wooden frame is fine, but I'd still consider a portable.
The most important two things are the sound and feel of the keys, plus as compact as possible.
So far based on my research Yamaha and Roland seem to be the kings of keys, but I'm open for suggestions.
The Roland F120 looks like a good bet to me. http://www.roland.co.uk/products/productdetails.aspx?p=1185
I'm lucky in that there is a Piano Shop only about 5 miles from my home. Here is a link to there website
http://www.ukpianos.co.uk/
I've set a budget for about £1000.00 - I don't mind if it's a good second-hand one, if I can get something good for less, all the better.
I'd be interested to know of your experiences and your thoughts on what grade and quality of Piano I should buy. Essentially I'll be playing, creating and recording.
I have no clue, but I play with quite a few keyboard players. They like Roland ... but for some reason they seem to gravitate towards the Kurzweil stuff. I've heard comments that the sound is a little richer in tone. Not sure if that true though.. I'd say check them out and A/B the roland, Korg, and Kurzweil piano's..
I use the Casio wk1500 (ancient keyboard) as a controller for my Steinberg Grand Piano software.
http://www.zzounds.com/item--STEGRAND
I use the Casio wk1500 (ancient keyboard) as a controller for my Steinberg Grand Piano software.
http://www.zzounds.com/item--STEGRAND
I´m also not a competent advisor in keyboards. I guess you´re not doing wrong with Yamaha, Roland, Korg, Kurzweil.
Another company to keep in mind may be "Clavia". They make some great stage pianos and other keys.
Depends on your purposes.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/clavia.html
As a non-native-keyboarder I´m happy with my Yamaha "MO6" Synth. It provides all ( and more) I need and can handle. Decent Piano- and Organ sounds, fantastic solo-, lead and pad-synth-sounds, great multi-layers etc.
U.L.I.
Another company to keep in mind may be "Clavia". They make some great stage pianos and other keys.
Depends on your purposes.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/clavia.html
As a non-native-keyboarder I´m happy with my Yamaha "MO6" Synth. It provides all ( and more) I need and can handle. Decent Piano- and Organ sounds, fantastic solo-, lead and pad-synth-sounds, great multi-layers etc.
U.L.I.
| Yamaha P85 |
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261097269803?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_520wt_1397
Doing loads of research and the above meets my needs, that is a realistic Piano feel and sound - I'm always on the hunt for a bargain. The P85 on eBay was bought for a daughter three years ago, not had much use. It's compact has three pedals - Sostenuto is a new term I've learned using the middle pedal, this works like on an acoustic pedal and sustains (un-dampens) all the strings creating an authentic sound as apposed to a standard sustain, which only sustains the notes you press, so you get more of a digital effect . I was gonna wait until my studio's built, but I can still make use of it now, I've found a space for it under my bed, the keyboard is made to measure, I can store the stand in the Attic
- I can still set it up if I want to use it. X fingers I could hopefully win the auction, I think with the stand, stool and frame of the modern equivalent sells for about £650.00, If I can get it for £300.00 I've done well. If I don't win not a problem, I'll be patient.
In German - This a good demonstration video, wish I could speak German
Doing loads of research and the above meets my needs, that is a realistic Piano feel and sound - I'm always on the hunt for a bargain. The P85 on eBay was bought for a daughter three years ago, not had much use. It's compact has three pedals - Sostenuto is a new term I've learned using the middle pedal, this works like on an acoustic pedal and sustains (un-dampens) all the strings creating an authentic sound as apposed to a standard sustain, which only sustains the notes you press, so you get more of a digital effect . I was gonna wait until my studio's built, but I can still make use of it now, I've found a space for it under my bed, the keyboard is made to measure, I can store the stand in the Attic
- I can still set it up if I want to use it. X fingers I could hopefully win the auction, I think with the stand, stool and frame of the modern equivalent sells for about £650.00, If I can get it for £300.00 I've done well. If I don't win not a problem, I'll be patient.In German - This a good demonstration video, wish I could speak German
ULI wrote…
I´m also not a competent advisor in keyboards. I guess you´re not doing wrong with Yamaha, Roland, Korg, Kurzweil.
Another company to keep in mind may be "Clavia". They make some great stage pianos and other keys.
Depends on your purposes.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/clavia.html
As a non-native-keyboarder I´m happy with my Yamaha "MO6" Synth. It provides all ( and more) I need and can handle. Decent Piano- and Organ sounds, fantastic solo-, lead and pad-synth-sounds, great multi-layers etc.
U.L.I.
I've got a Behringer midi keyboard with semi-weighted keys, it's great for organ, strings and synths, but I want to get a Piano with a Piano hammer action feel and sound. The Clavia looks pro stuff, too much money for me.
actually I dont like the sharp piano sounds from the p-series of Yamaha.
Nord has brought out it's stage piano organ
But you're always restricted to the fixed sounds of these keyboards
I'd prefer Roland or Kurzweil for a real grand piano feeling with weighted keys. But their piano samples are rather synthetic so drop down their volume and use that keyboard as a midi controller for a VST instrument.
Check out TruePianos VST. You can find it here: http://www.truepianos.com
You can also follow a discussion about VSTs and Acoutic pianos here: http://forum.cockos.com/archive/index.php/t-25507.html
Nord has brought out it's stage piano organ
But you're always restricted to the fixed sounds of these keyboards
I'd prefer Roland or Kurzweil for a real grand piano feeling with weighted keys. But their piano samples are rather synthetic so drop down their volume and use that keyboard as a midi controller for a VST instrument.
Check out TruePianos VST. You can find it here: http://www.truepianos.com
You can also follow a discussion about VSTs and Acoutic pianos here: http://forum.cockos.com/archive/index.php/t-25507.html
TritonKeyboarder wrote…
actually I dont like the sharp piano sounds from the p-series of Yamaha.
Nord has brought out it's stage piano organ
But you're always restricted to the fixed sounds of these keyboards
I'd prefer Roland or Kurzweil for a real grand piano feeling with weighted keys. But their piano samples are rather synthetic so drop down their volume and use that keyboard as a midi controller for a VST instrument.
Check out TruePianos VST. You can find it here: http://www.truepianos.com
You can also follow a discussion about VSTs and Acoutic pianos here: http://forum.cockos.com/archive/index.php/t-25507.html
btw
my Korg Triton (Rack version) has some nice piano sounds.
Acoustic Piano
Attack Piano
60s Piano
Classic Piano
You can listen to the Acoustic Piano on this track here: http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/1413.html
my Korg Triton (Rack version) has some nice piano sounds.
Acoustic Piano
Attack Piano
60s Piano
Classic Piano
You can listen to the Acoustic Piano on this track here: http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/1413.html
Even Jazz piano players prefer Kurzweil's dynamic range of hammer weighted keys, more than "normal" lead weighted keys . They're absolute fantastic and give the player a real grand piano feeling in live perfomances. Also for recording purposes I would always prefer such keyboards.
TritonKeyboarder wrote…
btw
my Korg Triton (Rack version) has some nice piano sounds.
Acoustic Piano
Attack Piano
60s Piano
Classic Piano
You can listen to the Acoustic Piano on this track here: http://forum.bandamp.com/Audio_Review/1413.html
Beautifully played TK, but it sounds synthetic to me...
TritonKeyboarder wrote…
Even Jazz piano players prefer Kurzweil's dynamic range of hammer weighted keys, more than "normal" lead weighted keys . They're absolute fantastic and give the player a real grand piano feeling in live perfomances. Also for recording purposes I would always prefer such keyboards.
| Roland FP-2 |
I went to my local Piano store and tried a Roland FP-7 http://www.roland.co.uk/products/productdetails.aspx?p=1123 - latest stage piano and it was awesome, the sound and touch are superb. I've seen a Roland FP-2 http://www.roland.com/products/en/FP-2/ which is an older version on eBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261098087976#ht_500wt_1414
The auction ends this Monday coming.
It's nice and compact, plus comes with a case on wheels - The seller said he'd meet me at a nearby Tube station.
I'm very excited - x-fingers I'll win the auction
*EDIT* Not so excited, now - researched the Roland FP-2. The sound is brighter, not as nice as the latest models, can't find a decent demo either. Back to the drawing board
The auction ends this Monday coming.
It's nice and compact, plus comes with a case on wheels - The seller said he'd meet me at a nearby Tube station.
I'm very excited - x-fingers I'll win the auction
*EDIT* Not so excited, now - researched the Roland FP-2. The sound is brighter, not as nice as the latest models, can't find a decent demo either. Back to the drawing board
| M Audio Oxygen 88 |
http://www.maudio.co.uk/products/en_gb/Oxygen88.html
I can get this midi controller keyboard with hammer action keys for £309.00
I also downloaded a trial version of true pianos VST recommended by TK. http://www.truepianos.com/ Sounds really nice, nice tone and dynamics, balanced tone. I'd love for some members to try it and give me their opinion.
I'll try and upload something soon.
Does anyone have hands on experience with the M Audio Oxygen 88?
I can get this midi controller keyboard with hammer action keys for £309.00
I also downloaded a trial version of true pianos VST recommended by TK. http://www.truepianos.com/ Sounds really nice, nice tone and dynamics, balanced tone. I'd love for some members to try it and give me their opinion.
I'll try and upload something soon.
Does anyone have hands on experience with the M Audio Oxygen 88?
love that Kurzweil sound!
I own an Oxygen 8, small 25 keys none weight small keys, so I can nót help You :p
actually I dont use my old 88 keys Technics much, but when I use it with Halions piano, I do like that sound much.Would love to try those True pianos, but dont have time now.
I know, I aint a great help, just chatting.
I own an Oxygen 8, small 25 keys none weight small keys, so I can nót help You :p
actually I dont use my old 88 keys Technics much, but when I use it with Halions piano, I do like that sound much.Would love to try those True pianos, but dont have time now.
I know, I aint a great help, just chatting.
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