| What a nice place... |
...Bandamp. Well, I think it's pretty much all said in this thread. I just want to explain somethings I said.
I asume my responsability. I smoked my first cigarrette because I wanted to, and that's a decision I make every time I light one. So "it's because of people like you that:
1) I smoke, and 2)There's a war going on." was just a way to say that impositive regulations are not helping in the world and would not help in the schools, I think. So I wasn't trying to blame anybody, and I'm sorry if offended to TheTeemDream or someone else in this forum. I think this is a healthy debate aiming a tough task, and I share your frustration, cause we have the same problem in our country.
So, yeah... I think this is a great space for open discussion. Lets keep it that way.
I asume my responsability. I smoked my first cigarrette because I wanted to, and that's a decision I make every time I light one. So "it's because of people like you that:
1) I smoke, and 2)There's a war going on." was just a way to say that impositive regulations are not helping in the world and would not help in the schools, I think. So I wasn't trying to blame anybody, and I'm sorry if offended to TheTeemDream or someone else in this forum. I think this is a healthy debate aiming a tough task, and I share your frustration, cause we have the same problem in our country.
So, yeah... I think this is a great space for open discussion. Lets keep it that way.
I agree Aetheris
and i dont have any problem with you....
and i dont have any problem with you....
Imagine if all smokers quit overnight, governments would freak . On one hand sanctimonious sponsoring anti smoking campaigns ....scare pics horror festering cancers but geeee all that lost revenue thru taxes and gasp awwmoigawd the economy.
They've had addicted generations just where they want them , a veritible goldmine pipeline neverending .
They'd find something else to tax .
The East India Company descimated china with opium
Look at it this way it could be revenge on haha civilization courtesy of ancient Inca gods for what they did to the Indian population of America.
Sorry I know its a curse .
They've had addicted generations just where they want them , a veritible goldmine pipeline neverending .
They'd find something else to tax .
The East India Company descimated china with opium
Look at it this way it could be revenge on haha civilization courtesy of ancient Inca gods for what they did to the Indian population of America.
Sorry I know its a curse .
Ok, I made a mistake. I have a lot of dark sarasm and I love Irony.
The problem is it doesn't come across well as a stand alone joke, I breif explanation was planed but I have no interenet and my friends comp crashed and I had to go home.
Anyway, Aetheris in very right in saying there is not enough tolerance in society today.
Teendream was right also. Suspending everyone you see who smokes would solve the problem.
Myu views on smoking are seriouse because I am treated like a second rate citizin for smoking. Despite the fact I consider myself as a good samariton type. Some one who should be praised, not prosocuted.
Plus I understand there are risks but there are more risks involved in many everyday in my opinion.
Anyway,
I apologise for my bad taste humour and if I caused an argument or any harm.
Anyway,
toodles,
KI
The problem is it doesn't come across well as a stand alone joke, I breif explanation was planed but I have no interenet and my friends comp crashed and I had to go home.
Anyway, Aetheris in very right in saying there is not enough tolerance in society today.
Teendream was right also. Suspending everyone you see who smokes would solve the problem.
Myu views on smoking are seriouse because I am treated like a second rate citizin for smoking. Despite the fact I consider myself as a good samariton type. Some one who should be praised, not prosocuted.
Plus I understand there are risks but there are more risks involved in many everyday in my opinion.
Anyway,
I apologise for my bad taste humour and if I caused an argument or any harm.
Anyway,
toodles,
KI
all this doesnt matter
the thing that matter is that smoking is bad and it has to be stopped!!!!
we have to have will power to control it
there is no way that others can control your actions
maybe they can for sometime but not for long
so say no to SMOKING.
IT KILLS....
the thing that matter is that smoking is bad and it has to be stopped!!!!
we have to have will power to control it
there is no way that others can control your actions
maybe they can for sometime but not for long
so say no to SMOKING.
IT KILLS....
But I don't want to give up, ever.
This is what I mean. Yes, smoking kills.
Why are we worrying about something like smoking when lack of fair trade is not only killing but keeping the people it kills in absolupe poverty while they live.
There are people who only eat one meal a week and have to walk 30 milkes a day just to get water.
This is a tiny dot on the millions of major and quite frankly unaceptable problems governments and us, yes, us choose to ignore.
In favour of what. Smoking.
Who cares if smoking kills. If I die because of smoking, I would be (if you feel anything after death) enraged if some one used me as an example not to smoke. I love smoking. I enjoy smoking whilst drinking. I enjoy smoking pot (which is no more dangerous than alchohole) and I like something to look forward in the day. I like the fact that he rest of the world hates it for hypochritical reasons. I like the way that when it all gets too much I can walk outside and smoke. I like to contemplate whilst smoking. I like the taste and I like the way it feels and makes me feel.
It's not neceraly bad for you. There is a risk it will be bad for you. Everything worth living for is dangerous. Thats part of what makes it fun. But that's not really the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make is that it's a side product you can't avoid. So stop worrying and get on with it.
Before you pull the whole, "but it doesn't just effect you" comment on me; In my beleif that's not true. I have enough courtasy that if I sit down next to some one I don't know on a bench in a park, I'll ask if they mind me lighting up. If I'm already sitting down, I don't expect to have to move. In my view that's fair enough.
I don't beleive that if I smoke others should suffer but a little tolerance would also be apreciated.
It's become a fashoin to rant at smokers. People are becomig rude towards me because of it. I am being punished for smoking.
So no, you didn't anger me, and I am still not angry. But if you don't mind me saying so I feel that last comment was slightly close minded,
KI
*takes a bow, leaves stage left*
This is what I mean. Yes, smoking kills.
Why are we worrying about something like smoking when lack of fair trade is not only killing but keeping the people it kills in absolupe poverty while they live.
There are people who only eat one meal a week and have to walk 30 milkes a day just to get water.
This is a tiny dot on the millions of major and quite frankly unaceptable problems governments and us, yes, us choose to ignore.
In favour of what. Smoking.
Who cares if smoking kills. If I die because of smoking, I would be (if you feel anything after death) enraged if some one used me as an example not to smoke. I love smoking. I enjoy smoking whilst drinking. I enjoy smoking pot (which is no more dangerous than alchohole) and I like something to look forward in the day. I like the fact that he rest of the world hates it for hypochritical reasons. I like the way that when it all gets too much I can walk outside and smoke. I like to contemplate whilst smoking. I like the taste and I like the way it feels and makes me feel.
It's not neceraly bad for you. There is a risk it will be bad for you. Everything worth living for is dangerous. Thats part of what makes it fun. But that's not really the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make is that it's a side product you can't avoid. So stop worrying and get on with it.
Before you pull the whole, "but it doesn't just effect you" comment on me; In my beleif that's not true. I have enough courtasy that if I sit down next to some one I don't know on a bench in a park, I'll ask if they mind me lighting up. If I'm already sitting down, I don't expect to have to move. In my view that's fair enough.
I don't beleive that if I smoke others should suffer but a little tolerance would also be apreciated.
It's become a fashoin to rant at smokers. People are becomig rude towards me because of it. I am being punished for smoking.
So no, you didn't anger me, and I am still not angry. But if you don't mind me saying so I feel that last comment was slightly close minded,
KI
*takes a bow, leaves stage left*
| when itt comes to $$$$$$ |
Interesting reaction to total indoor smoking ban in clubs and pubs in Australia,
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/pubs-fume-at-smoking-rules/2006/09/20/1158431784446.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/pubs-fume-at-smoking-rules/2006/09/20/1158431784446.html
I agree the aetheris... i smoke, i started smoking was my choice... i got suspended for smoking in the school toilets still did it... to be honest there's not alot you can do to stop it, if kids want to smoke in school they'll smoke, the fact that your adding repercussions will probably make em do it more cause we all know its the 'rebels' that smoke in school... lol... thats what i was... a rebel... how cool am i 
yes and if you would have had a specific location in which you would have been allowed to smoke... would you still have tried to smoke on the loo?
of course not that would of just been daft, but school wouldnt look very good if it has designated smoking areas... but i doubt it would change anything... kids smoke out of school they'll smoke in school, if they dont smoke out of school they wont smoke in school... although the fear of suspesion would probably put more off than promoting it with a smoking area... then again smoking areas are highly degrading... crammed into those tiny glass boxes in airpots like a tin of sardines getting out fix of nicotine after a 6 hour flight...
lol... hehehehe... that's the exact purpose of those areas yeah... to discourage!
glad I quit 2 years ago.
glad I quit 2 years ago.
wow i didnt know there were other peole so concerned...
smoking is against the rules in my school, yet half of the male population and a few females still smoke...the girls never smoke in school though...well maybe once. The guys always smoked in the washrooms.....
thers notmuch they can do about it, but i hoped the school tried harder. Fortunately there are some good, caring girlfriends who are trying to help their boyfriends stop smoking. Its mainly the other students who are helping and making an impact....the teachers just make them pissed. Thats how teenagers are....
smoking is against the rules in my school, yet half of the male population and a few females still smoke...the girls never smoke in school though...well maybe once. The guys always smoked in the washrooms.....
thers notmuch they can do about it, but i hoped the school tried harder. Fortunately there are some good, caring girlfriends who are trying to help their boyfriends stop smoking. Its mainly the other students who are helping and making an impact....the teachers just make them pissed. Thats how teenagers are....
Moses wrote…
Whats the problem with letting them leave school grounds at break. That way they can smoke/not smoke, eat food that doesn't taste like regurgitated guano etc etc.
Edit, ha, I just realized, Aetheris, Aetherius, two different people....sorry.
Well, the problem is that they ar not allowed to be outside the school grounds because the school is taking all resopnsibility for them while AT school, which means that when you come in the morning up to the moment you finish your lessons, if something happens to you, the school will be held responsible!
You can't do that, no....
As for designing places dedicated to smokers, isn't it the same as saying : OK, we admit we can't win with smokers and can't control what is happening at school. Is it really gaining the control back into school's hands?? One solution that comes to my mind is teachers watching the school halls/corridors during the breaks AND having a look into the children's bathrooms during the breaks. Something like a school police... We have to do it at our school, anyway.
| huh?? |
well yeah that teacher patrol at work..
will do just fine...
and allowing ppl to smoke is really giving up...
leading to situation when pupils will be in a higher state than the teachers..
may be leading to diobedience or to even worse circumstances....
well but i do still believe(even after being so much opposed) that Suspending these
unobidient smoker would do a great job...
by the way if you are thinking of just controlling them even outside the school then you should give up.......then puppetxeno's advise would work just fine....
will do just fine...
and allowing ppl to smoke is really giving up...
leading to situation when pupils will be in a higher state than the teachers..
may be leading to diobedience or to even worse circumstances....
well but i do still believe(even after being so much opposed) that Suspending these
unobidient smoker would do a great job...
by the way if you are thinking of just controlling them even outside the school then you should give up.......then puppetxeno's advise would work just fine....
Sorry, you do not have access to post...
Wanna post? Join Today!