hey flyer,
I completely agree wtih everything you just said.
I think we all need to get to rating songs more! maybe while TLS is doing the re-write, he can incorporate some way where it is require that you rate when u view a song and make a comment.

also all of the profanity isnt needed at all. this is a friendly community site.

i am trying to get in the habit of rating each song i listen to, and I think its great, and i love how flyer always rates.

When I decided to maintain the website a bit at the beginning of this year I found a few scripts to finish a battle voting. But I wasn't sure which one to use. I never got an answer back. TLS now might know the script and I am sure he will implement the correct function in his further developements of his new face of BandAmp, do you TLS? 

As for the chat I suggest to make a new rule to ignore those "hey, I've uploaded a new song, please rate" messages, like I have seen on other music sites. And I've seen that it works. I think it's fair enough against other members with decency

Yes, The Canadian (let's think about how to confuse him again  )

Can't say more about it, you're right Ralph

I'm Canadian....

But yeah for sure. People should rate songs. That is why they are posted...for feedback. I rate every song I listen to...honest.

I would suggest scripting the program to do this:

*User presses PLAY on the trac*
  -Script records last song listened to and lists that on their profile.
  -Script records if the song has been rated(not the actual rating though)
     -If the user has rated the song, he may listen to another
     -If the user has not rated, it blocks the user and redirects them to the previous song for rating.
     -Once the user rates the song...
*User enjoys the next song*

I don't know a thing about this kind of programming, but when i programmed a game I did, it was simple enough. Something called 'tags'. You are tagged when you do an action such as playing a song. The tag is removed when another action is performed, such as rating the song. And if you perform certain actions while the tag is still on, it has a consequence. In this case it would send you back to the stored weblink.

Anyways, I'm too tired and am likely going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and ...hmm what was I saying?

G'night Ampers
-Mark

I agree 100%.  people want to come on here and upload their songs, get critiques but don't want to return the favor.. if I comment on your song .. it will have a vote .  I think some people may still be confused as to how the voting works.. The stars beside the subject box should have a word that says "vote for song here" or something ..
It is just 5 stars sitting there. If your not  the site a lot, or are new, you won't have a clue as to what the stars are for.

Ditto... if I comment, I vote.  If I listen, I vote (but may not comment).
This issue has been discussed so much... but really, how hard is it to wave your mouse over the stars until it shows an appropriate rating!?

How about a 3D finger that just popped out of your screen and poked u in the eye ..............

the solution needs 2 be as simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no flashing lights or stuff just a simple vote.......

Be In or Not.........

I have been on the site fer a while and have seen this debate run and run .............

fer me it just needs to be a simple yes/no ........solution that says

y ........ i'm an active member/part of the community ....... and vote (every time) on every thing I hear, and therefore continue my uploading and comment rites

or not

How Simple can It Get??

As  for the base language.....
f word.............etc........

we have done so well without it ................

why the hell let it creep in ........

I would prefer it if my students could come here and look around without the site being blocked by establishment filters just lookin fer profanity

Keep it Simple ..................... Swordfish

Actually, the fishman has a point with the "if you vote, you can post your own music" theme.  At the moment it's tied to the number of posts you have (don't remember the specifics, but isn't it something like 3 posts and you can upload a song?).  Perhaps it should be tied to votes as well.

Profanity... unnecessary.  Keep it clean, keep it open to all.

Hey thanks man. I look forward to posting more stuff soon.

lol yeah TK (tritonkeyboarder) i think it would be just great if you all confused me again. it really brightens up the community.       

I think that all of these ideas are great.
I think I am helping TLS with some of the skins so I can let him know about some of this stuff.

awww come on man, you dont have to leave just cause of fish!
you are a great member on this site!

Im sure most people will try really hard to rate, and I think we are all going through a tough time right now, especially cause things are degrading on bandamp, but thats what this whole rewrite is for!

TLS is hard at work trying to get everything set up! We are going to have a fresh start and a better system

I guess you could take a break until the new site is up, but dont give up just yet

Hey Flyer No disrespect intended AT ALL ........to you or any one else for that matter ........ no need for you to walk ..........
My massive apology for getting your goat........ 

I honestly think the Battle is not the main goal on BandAMP.
When I first joined this site I really enjoyed the way people could come and comment in your songs and say "Hey, yeah, that sounds good, may be less bass, more vox, try to remix it, take out a verse" etc.
I this the Battle is simple a plus you can have, but just that, not where BandAMP aims. I prefer 100 times a comment in a song than 10 votes.
But I you really care about the Battle, it's simple as "review+vote = upload your songs".

           > Iszil

Well, friends, I have to say that I agree with most opinions on here... there are good points on all sides presented, and this is my idea... (in brief)

We should continue to discourage the use of colorful/salty language in casual posts.  On the lyrics forum is one thing, but in casual posts it's a whole other thing.  I'm thinking to put in some filters that each user can use to block certain words that s/he would simply prefer not to see, but a site-wide blocking would only be encouragement to use the words more freely, and then we'd get people petitioning to have the filters removed.  So, we'll just conduct ourselves like friendly adults.

An "adult content" section of the forum was suggested not too long ago... (age protected, etc).  I'm not sure how far this idea should be carried out.  I think it's a good way to complicate things in the beginning.  It's easy to implement in the future, but for now, we'll probably keep it simple.

As for rating: It's my intention to do everything I can to have 100% of listeners rate the songs they visit.  I hope to do that by being "inviting" and making it seem very "easy" and "no-hassle" to the users.  I'll probably get to the rating system in a few weeks.  Progress can be slow at times when I work full time and am married and trying to juggle a few personal projects

The battles?  Yes.  I think that Flyer has expressed some really relevant concerns.  Whether people want to participate or not, those who DO participate should not have to suffer the incessant disappointment of not even qualifying.  If we can make people rate songs on a regular basis anyway, then we should hopefully never run into this sort of problem.  I'm still mulling the details around in my mind, but I hope that we can dispel this issue.

A contest for ALL media types would be great.  Flyer said that a contest for lyrics would also be good.  I agree.

I hope we can all anxiously hold out until this site gets the feature additions that we're all after.

Tim