| You Thrill Me - remix |    |
I uploaded this song a few days ago and received various ideas on how to improve the mix.
Avi sugested putting the drums through an analouge mixer, since everything else recorded was either put through an analoge mixer or a tube preamp. By mistake the left and right channels of the drums are slighty off set, I quite like the effect, it sort of gives it a more live feel in my opinion.
Also I toned down the bass on a few of the tracks and boosted the upper middle to give more clarity.
Lastly I adjustted the pan to separate the instruments in the mix.
Cheers
Denis
Avi sugested putting the drums through an analouge mixer, since everything else recorded was either put through an analoge mixer or a tube preamp. By mistake the left and right channels of the drums are slighty off set, I quite like the effect, it sort of gives it a more live feel in my opinion.
Also I toned down the bass on a few of the tracks and boosted the upper middle to give more clarity.
Lastly I adjustted the pan to separate the instruments in the mix.
Cheers
Denis
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Alright! I love the sound! The difference is truly amazing. You incorporated all my suggestions flawlessly. This is mastered incredibly. There are a few points where the sound is just luscious with the background harmonies: superb.
The timing issues are still there, but in terms of the sound of the drums, they really have that live feel you are talking about. I am hearing a big change in the tone of the entire track, most notably the lead and the percussion. The entire drum set is tonally superior and has it's own space in the sound scape. The lead also fits into the track better. And I don't know if you did this or it was just a side-effect, but the vocals seemed to have more presence and clarity.
Your only flaw now is the timing issues and the few flow issues, both of which I mentioned before. It's unfortunate you don't know a drummer near you, and if you haven't already, you should definitely look. It's your weakest link; nevertheless, I am confident you are doing the best you can. If I was more nit picky, I'd probably change a few of the lyrics for rhythmic purposes (I have no problems with the actual singing), jazz up the bass line a little and maybe introduce another lead guitar playing in harmony. But these are more preferential things that the song doesn't need.
Have you considered writing more stripped down songs with hand percussion? Record everything, and maintain your vibe. Old folksy songs, and the like.
Stellar. I am truly impressed. This song is a perfect example of why you are one of the most talent musicians and songwriters on the AMP.
The timing issues are still there, but in terms of the sound of the drums, they really have that live feel you are talking about. I am hearing a big change in the tone of the entire track, most notably the lead and the percussion. The entire drum set is tonally superior and has it's own space in the sound scape. The lead also fits into the track better. And I don't know if you did this or it was just a side-effect, but the vocals seemed to have more presence and clarity.
Your only flaw now is the timing issues and the few flow issues, both of which I mentioned before. It's unfortunate you don't know a drummer near you, and if you haven't already, you should definitely look. It's your weakest link; nevertheless, I am confident you are doing the best you can. If I was more nit picky, I'd probably change a few of the lyrics for rhythmic purposes (I have no problems with the actual singing), jazz up the bass line a little and maybe introduce another lead guitar playing in harmony. But these are more preferential things that the song doesn't need.
Have you considered writing more stripped down songs with hand percussion? Record everything, and maintain your vibe. Old folksy songs, and the like.
Stellar. I am truly impressed. This song is a perfect example of why you are one of the most talent musicians and songwriters on the AMP.
| well |
I posted on this the first time you posted it, but you deleted it.. so my post got deleted...
So, I am just going to say that it's better... and that's all I feel I can say, I'm so hurt that you deleted my post...
Though it seems you deleted it to adjust the panning.... so I guess I'll say the panning is a bit more even too...
But that is all you get from me...
JimK
So, I am just going to say that it's better... and that's all I feel I can say, I'm so hurt that you deleted my post...
Though it seems you deleted it to adjust the panning.... so I guess I'll say the panning is a bit more even too...
But that is all you get from me...
JimK
| Review |
Bad points: Timing is a little sloppy in the early parts of the song. Vocals sound quite lifeless, it feels like its a real struggle for the singer to get the notes on key and the tone lacks conviction.
Good points: Nice style! Very nice almost prog feel to the chord progression. Reminds me a little of certain Pink Floyd trakcs (especially the drum fill a la Nick Mason) and also a little of Jethro Tull's mellower stuff. That chorus unison hook is great, love it!
To conclude, this track has some great ideas but I dont feel that it has been particularly well executed. Improved timing in parts would help as well as having a look at the vocals. The chorus hook is great but it feels like the whole track is built around that one riff.
I hope I have been constructive, I dont like to give bad reviews!
Good points: Nice style! Very nice almost prog feel to the chord progression. Reminds me a little of certain Pink Floyd trakcs (especially the drum fill a la Nick Mason) and also a little of Jethro Tull's mellower stuff. That chorus unison hook is great, love it!
To conclude, this track has some great ideas but I dont feel that it has been particularly well executed. Improved timing in parts would help as well as having a look at the vocals. The chorus hook is great but it feels like the whole track is built around that one riff.
I hope I have been constructive, I dont like to give bad reviews!
| re: well |
JimkDaAdtman wrote…
I posted on this the first time you posted it, but you deleted it.. so my post got deleted...
So, I am just going to say that it's better... and that's all I feel I can say, I'm so hurt that you deleted my post...
Though it seems you deleted it to adjust the panning.... so I guess I'll say the panning is a bit more even too...
But that is all you get from me...
JimK
Hey Jim,
I trully never saw your first post????????????????????????????.
I have never ever deleted anyone's post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take it easy
Denis
avinashv wrote…
Alright! I love the sound! The difference is truly amazing. You incorporated all my suggestions flawlessly. This is mastered incredibly. There are a few points where the sound is just luscious with the background harmonies: superb.
The timing issues are still there, but in terms of the sound of the drums, they really have that live feel you are talking about. I am hearing a big change in the tone of the entire track, most notably the lead and the percussion. The entire drum set is tonally superior and has it's own space in the sound scape. The lead also fits into the track better. And I don't know if you did this or it was just a side-effect, but the vocals seemed to have more presence and clarity.
Your only flaw now is the timing issues and the few flow issues, both of which I mentioned before. It's unfortunate you don't know a drummer near you, and if you haven't already, you should definitely look. It's your weakest link; nevertheless, I am confident you are doing the best you can. If I was more nit picky, I'd probably change a few of the lyrics for rhythmic purposes (I have no problems with the actual singing), jazz up the bass line a little and maybe introduce another lead guitar playing in harmony. But these are more preferential things that the song doesn't need.
Have you considered writing more stripped down songs with hand percussion? Record everything, and maintain your vibe. Old folksy songs, and the like.
Stellar. I am truly impressed. This song is a perfect example of why you are one of the most talent musicians and songwriters on the AMP.
Thanks Avi,
Funny you mentioned about doing old folky songs, I was thinking about that the other day. When I get my flute at Xmas, and hopefully learn how to play it, I will try some folky songs. I aslo would like a Mandolin,
a 12 String Acoustic, and a hi quality analouge mixer [I think Macki is a good make] Will have to start saving for those
This song was really an exersise to get the best sound from loads of tracks etc. I dont think I could improve the vocals much, apart from the first verce. Perhaps My voice isn't suited to this type of song. It's no bother
at least I know, or I could work on it, just don't know how.
Cheers
Denis
| re: Review |
JamieM wrote…
Bad points: Timing is a little sloppy in the early parts of the song. Vocals sound quite lifeless, it feels like its a real struggle for the singer to get the notes on key and the tone lacks conviction.
Good points: Nice style! Very nice almost prog feel to the chord progression. Reminds me a little of certain Pink Floyd trakcs (especially the drum fill a la Nick Mason) and also a little of Jethro Tull's mellower stuff. That chorus unison hook is great, love it!
To conclude, this track has some great ideas but I dont feel that it has been particularly well executed. Improved timing in parts would help as well as having a look at the vocals. The chorus hook is great but it feels like the whole track is built around that one riff.
I hope I have been constructive, I dont like to give bad reviews!
This is a constructive review, all your points I agree with. I would be interested to know at which part
you think the timeing is off and what instruments?
I could try doing the vox again. When I did them is was when my wife watching TV downstairs, I think psychologically, I held back, plus I did it it after work, probably didn't reherse enough??
Cheers
Denis
| re: well |
JimkDaAdtman wrote…
I posted on this the first time you posted it, but you deleted it.. so my post got deleted...
So, I am just going to say that it's better... and that's all I feel I can say, I'm so hurt that you deleted my post...
Though it seems you deleted it to adjust the panning.... so I guess I'll say the panning is a bit more even too...
But that is all you get from me...
JimK
I've just picked up your original message in my in box, when I clicked on the link to the song it took me to a different page. Anyway I've copied and paisted it below:
I am posting here, instead of on the first one, since this one supersedes the first. The drums sound much more warm and realistic(though there are a few places I still don't like much, but it's no matter)... Also, the sound seems more balanced now... The bass seems to blend better... I am not using headphones, so can't comment on Avi's issue with the headphones.. But I agreed with his comment about large speakers, and still do now with this track, it is a great crank it up and dance track... Very fun and loud! You are an amazing talent Sir Denis! This is great!! Imagine what you could do with a full band backing you up!
) JimKHi Dennis,
The timing issues I heard were infact the offset drums that you mentioned, sorry I didnt pick up on that the first time, my ears were tired. Apologies for that comment. Although personally I would correct that offset, but if you like it keep it.
I actually like this track more on second listening with a clear head,(have given a new star rating to compensate) the vocals I do think were restrained though.
Good stuff!
The timing issues I heard were infact the offset drums that you mentioned, sorry I didnt pick up on that the first time, my ears were tired. Apologies for that comment. Although personally I would correct that offset, but if you like it keep it.
I actually like this track more on second listening with a clear head,(have given a new star rating to compensate) the vocals I do think were restrained though.
Good stuff!
| re: re: well |
Denis wrote…
JimkDaAdtman wrote…
I posted on this the first time you posted it, but you deleted it.. so my post got deleted...
So, I am just going to say that it's better... and that's all I feel I can say, I'm so hurt that you deleted my post...
Though it seems you deleted it to adjust the panning.... so I guess I'll say the panning is a bit more even too...
But that is all you get from me...
JimK
Hey Jim,
I trully never saw your first post????????????????????????????.
I have never ever deleted anyone's post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take it easy
Denis
I was just teasing ya... I know you didn't do it purposely, You had posted the remix, and then deleted the whole song, and reposted it, because you wanted to fix the panning issues, I know that 's what happened, I could tell, the new version was panned a bit better.. But, I had to tease you... Sorry I didn't make it plainer that I was teasing... 
I'm easy, like a sunday morning..
JimK
| re: re: well |
Denis wrote…
JimkDaAdtman wrote…
I posted on this the first time you posted it, but you deleted it.. so my post got deleted...
So, I am just going to say that it's better... and that's all I feel I can say, I'm so hurt that you deleted my post...
Though it seems you deleted it to adjust the panning.... so I guess I'll say the panning is a bit more even too...
But that is all you get from me...
JimK
I've just picked up your original message in my in box, when I clicked on the link to the song it took me to a different page. Anyway I've copied and paisted it below:
I am posting here, instead of on the first one, since this one supersedes the first. The drums sound much more warm and realistic(though there are a few places I still don't like much, but it's no matter)... Also, the sound seems more balanced now... The bass seems to blend better... I am not using headphones, so can't comment on Avi's issue with the headphones.. But I agreed with his comment about large speakers, and still do now with this track, it is a great crank it up and dance track... Very fun and loud! You are an amazing talent Sir Denis! This is great!! Imagine what you could do with a full band backing you up!
The reason it took you to a different page, is because I posted that to the remix the FIRST time you posted it, then you deleted the song, to fix the panning.. And so the whole thread is gone, along with my post..
It's no biggie, I just have to be a smartass all the time, better than being a dumbass I guess.. hahaha
JimK
| re: re: re: well |
JimkDaAdtman wrote…
Dude... It's cool... That's why I put the RAZZ iconDenis wrote…
JimkDaAdtman wrote…
I posted on this the first time you posted it, but you deleted it.. so my post got deleted...
So, I am just going to say that it's better... and that's all I feel I can say, I'm so hurt that you deleted my post...
Though it seems you deleted it to adjust the panning.... so I guess I'll say the panning is a bit more even too...
But that is all you get from me...
JimK
Hey Jim,
I trully never saw your first post????????????????????????????.
I have never ever deleted anyone's post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take it easy
Denis
I'm easy, like a sunday morning..
JimK
Cool as a cucumber!!
I was a bit slow on the up take me ol' china!!
Cheers
Denis
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